Well, I've known about climate change since 1970 and have lived my life without trying to impact the earth negatively. I've been writing about it full scale for at least 10 years. I've run climate change groups, etc. and I studied it at college. I do NOT want engineers involved as in geo engineering solutions.

I agree that scientists should be involved, but the only that that is going to change this is tragedy.

Within the next 5 years enough wealther related evented will have happened to make we-the-people start rebelling, and there will be enough stories written that business and consumerism are the causes for people to start responding.

That's when we will see change.